Common food storage mistakes and the argument for freeze dried food

Common food storage mistakes and the argument for freeze dried food

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This is an example of the kinds of foods NOT to try and store long term as part of a survival plan. If you keep a year’s supply of common grocery store food, you then need to eat that food within a reasonable time of the expiration dates which means your diet becomes a constant race against expiration dates and the toxicity buildup of preservatives in your system. Food storage needs to be an infrequent single goal purchasing thing where you buy it and it is done, then your day to day diet should be healthy food with a minimum of toxic salts and preservatives in order to enhance your overall health, NOT constantly racing expiration dates on grocery store food you stocked up on for every possible impending collapse scenario that never happens.
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  1. Please stop spinning the fucking camera when you make a video.

  2. While in the Army in the mid 1960s I ate C-Rations that were canned during WW-2' Unless the can is leaking or swollen the food inside is probably good. A lot of women throw away good food because of the date stamped on the can.

  3. GoldGunsandGolf

    I can't for the life of me figure out why people buy canned food for long term… people have been prepping it seems mostly after 2008…. how many can's have gone bad since then… Our freeze dried food is still good for 20 years….. I also can't figure out why people prep in their houses? if SHTF, someone out side has control over their POWER AND WATER SUPPLY!! If people were smart they would pool their money with like minded people, buy a small parcel of land with access to wild animals and a well…build a small cabin…

  4. Thank you for sharing. But you would be hard pressed to open a can of bad spam or ravioli after 10-15 years. Unless the can is damaged , I know for a fact most items are very safe at the 10-15 year mark. I eat them often and have not even noticed a slight change of taste.

  5. Not exactly buddy.  Canned food lasts at least 10 years.  And ten years is long term food storage

  6. Wrong Wrong Wrong Buddy,  FDA Regs demand all canned foods manufactured in the U.S. MUST have a shelf life of at least 10 years Regardless of Exp. Date on the can. Exp. Dates on canned foods are only suggested by the company for optimal taste and so you will throw it out and buy more of their stuff. Also Delmonte and Hormel have done studies that found Canned foods are good 20 to 30 years after exp. date.

  7. If food stamps is $200 per month per person as an "economic ration" on a standard average government food ration, then we have to take a realistic look at any "food storage program" which cuts so many corners that it goes down into the $50-$70 range. So I factor a solid month rations of $200, spread among items which are bought once and expected to be good for ten years and be efficient for storage and transport. A one year storage of $1200 per person. Anything over that is bonus.

  8. What I'm saying is when trying to get people to prep to begin with and $ are an issue, you can ease into CGs over a period of time, on sale w/ coupons etc with less $ impact. The cheapest monthly "FD program" I have seen is $70, LESS SHIPPING. That will buy all the beans or rice for 4 mos/person, 6 cases of vegs, 5Spam 4-paks, 2 bucket red wheat… Calorie for calorie (as close to apples and apples as u can get) CGs are cheaper overall. It is better to have more ppl prepped than not, yes?

  9. Have to agree to disagree. I DO have some FD, and it does taste better, won't argue that point. Go to PREPAREWISE jOt COM they have a FD comparison. They leave out Thrive Foods, which is what I have, they are equal to or cheaper than them and as good a quality food product as any I have had, but still more $ than cans. If it's an awesome sale u can get close in $ but you can shop for CGs and sv for sv be cheaper especially meat. This isn't personal, just want folks to see the options.

  10. I said "I have been storing and EVALUATING food preps for over 16 years". I am 60+, retired military, retired civilian, and have been a prepper all my life…just wasn't a word for it back then. REGARDLESS, it has nothing to do with the veracity and accuracy of what I said. I started EVALUATING what I was doing because the WORST mistake preppers make is to believe everything you're told. Regardless of what someone says ALWAYS evaluate the techniques (products, skill etc.) for yourself. ;-}

  11. It is not "too expensive" when you do some careful shopping, look at actual weight minus water vs serving size and calorie/nutrition data and then the added bonus of less storage and transport resources. Mountain House gets high markup at most retailers, Augason is, well, Walmart stuff. I added up the real cost of that much chili and it is not really a bad deal. The cheese powder is a good deal, the eggs look costly until you figure out that a #10 can of the powder is a lot of egg.

  12. Also, MREs are only guaranteed for an initial 5 year cycle, BTW. After that we recycle them and do QC to determine if they will be kept for another 5 year cycle. You were using the wrong product. As long as you aren't moving around and are in your BOL, cans are fine and inexpensive compared to FD. Most people, myself included, can't afford top shelf FD, and I'm relatively well off compared to most. If it means the diff between having food and not…would rather have it. I like FD, but too many $

  13. MREs are not canned goods and not equivalent. If in Military cases, they were USED and you were ripped off. Because of the way they are sometimes stored, moved a lot and "recycled", they DO go bad sometimes. I have been doing food storage for real since 97 and have yet to find a bad can of food that was not obviously damaged. Five years is a very conservative cycle of rotation for canned goods. I have never encountered a bad MRE on AD, ever. You got ripped, but that doesn't mean cans are bad.

  14. 16 years…newbie…

  15. Storing food for a five year cycle, when it is a full year worth of food and you bought it over the course of a year or two, then that five year cycle comes up a lot faster than you think. I used to have cases of MREs in the 1990s, and in the early 2000s had expanded my supply to a few months worth, adding two or three cases a year from around 2001ish to 2005. By 2007, most of them had some bad parts, by 2010, it was proven to be a big waste. I learned my lesson and now to freeze dried.

  16. The key is that the stuff be taken care of properly, and QC'ed every other year (over 10 yrs I would do it annually). The Crisco could be home canned in quarts, if you know how (use meat instructions). If it taste "off", metallic or smells bad…DON'T EAT IT. That is the only advantage really that FD has over canned (in place) that it won't actually spoil outright. If you are in place and have cool storage space, and you should rotate it through a 5 yr cycle. IF you have any Q's, just ask.

  17. Continued; They should all be kept in the dark as well. The Crisco should be kept as cool (45-75) as possible. If you see dark spots on the outside, it is seeping. What I have from 97-99 is in cans and wont' seep so I'm not sure how long it would keep in the fiber "cans". The last one I opened was 18 mos ago and it was fine, not off tasting at all. I have opened canned ham and canned potatoes from 98 too. Yeah it was still canned ham n taters but it was waayyy better than starving. Tasted fine.

  18. There are some caveats I couldn't put it in one response. Canned food will last for quite some years, IF TAKEN CARE OF PROPERLY. Make sure the cans (jars if home canned) are handled gently and the cans are NOT dented. They should be kept dry and relatively cool. They should not be exposed to wide temp changes as 85 is better than 32-74 over and over. Crisco USED to be in cans. They are now in fiberboard containers. If the inside is not perfect you will see dark spots on the outside. Continued.

  19. hello ed Bryant I have a ? for ya so do you just leave the Crisco in the can and it will stay good for yrs.? SORRY but im still a newbie at all of this …

  20. Home canned food is cheaper than store canned food and IT is cheaper than FD per "serving", period. I have been storing and EVALUATING food preps for over 16 years. I have canned meats, vegetables and Crisco from 97 and 98. I open a canned ham and some vegs every other year to evaluate them for taste and quality. They are fine. Expiration dates are totally useless. If stored properly and not damaged, canned foods of either kind last for years. Crisco too. I have done it! It's not a guess.

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